Healing from the Inside Out with Anat Peri

 In this episode of the Passionistas Project, sisters Amy and Nancy Harrington interview inner child expert, Anat Peri. She discusses how she helps women heal deeply and transform their lives through her TCS method. Peri shares her personal journey from struggling with codependency and emotional suppression to becoming a powerful healer and mentor. She explains her method's stages, emphasizing the importance of nervous system safety, emotional resilience, and reparenting. Peri also talks about the impact of the pandemic on her business and the success stories of her clients.

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ON THIS EPISODE

[00:00] Welcome to the Passionistas Project

[00:20] Meet Anat Peri: Inner Child Expert [00:44] Anat's Journey to Teaching and Healing

[02:48] The Turning Point: COVID and Clarity

[04:24] Childhood Influences and Early Struggles

[07:43] Rock Bottom and the Path to Self-Love

[11:50] Discovering True Transformation

[17:23] Creating the Training Camp for the Soul Method

[30:41] Success Stories and Certification Program

[46:51] Final Thoughts and Joining the Sisterhood

FULL TRANSCRIPT

Passionistas: Hi, we're sisters Amy and Nancy Harrington, the founders of the Passionistas Project, an inclusive sisterhood where women find support, purpose, and empowerment. On each episode, we share the stories of passion-driven women who are breaking barriers and redefining success. So get ready to be inspired. As inner child expert, an Anat Peri shares how she helps women heal from the inside out, break generational cycles and transform their pain into power through deep embodiment and her signature TCS method. So please welcome Anat Peri. We're so excited to have you here.

Anat: Thanks, Nancy. Thanks Amy. We've been looking forward to this for months,

Passionistas: for a long time. So we start, uh, every episode in the same place, which is what are you most passionate about

Anat: currently? I have a lot of passion, um, currently just seeing the impact of teaching my method to students that have been coaches for years or have gone through other programs and are so passionate about helping people, but always felt like. I have all these tools, where do I begin? And to now see them flourishing, leading their own retreats, programs, all that, and, uh, growing the impact of the mission of ending generational trauma, of empowering people to live as creators.

So, you know, I, I, I came into this field, never. Looking or with zero goal or intention to be a teacher and have a method and a certification program, like not my plan. And, uh, it was more my students that wanted that over the years, I should say my clients. And now to be five years into that journey and develop this incredible certification program, um, it just like, how could it have gone any other way?

Passionistas: What was that moment where you decided that you were going to take that step?

Anat: Hmm. You know, three years of hearing it from clients, I wanna learn to do what you do. I wanna learn to do what you do. And me saying, what the heck am I doing? I don't, not like, I don't know what I'm doing, but it's so different doing it versus teaching it.

So much of it was innate, was channeled through, was just not mapped out. So hearing it for three years, um. And then saying, okay, this is the year, my fourth year that I pay attention to. What am I doing with clients? And I start to really map out some process here. Um, and then honestly, COVID, like, COVID hit, I have, I started, I, I told my clients about eight months before that that I'm, I'm, I'm gonna launch this thing in a year.

I'm pregnant with it. I don't know what the eye color's gonna be yet, or the sex or anything like, like I had no idea. So I, I threw it out there as an intention in, I think it was like August of 2019, and. I remember

working with my mentor in February of 2020 and we're like trying to figure out how we're gonna do this thing.

And then COVID happened. Lockdown happened and the clarity just showed up. It was like, oh, the world needs this now more than ever. The, I was predominantly doing retreats before and I was like, I just, the whole clarity came through and, um. While everyone was trying to figure out what the heck they were doing in April of 2020, uh, I had a six figure launch and was busier than ever.

It's, yeah. Yeah. And it's, it's interesting 'cause the way I teach it now is just so far from where it was five years ago. Um, yeah.

Passionistas: It's incredible how COVID was such a reset. Button for so many people, you know? I mean, it's a horrible time, but a lot, a lot of good came out of it. So I guess that's true of all trauma, right?

Anat: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Exactly. Well, you gotta look at the, uh, the silver lining.

Passionistas: Yeah. So where did this passion for helping people come from? Tell us a little bit about your childhoods and some of those experiences that shape your view.

Anat: So, you know, growing up my mother's motto was always just think positive.

Like, you're fine. Oh, it's not that bad. You're okay. Let's just go have fun. And although it was nice to have such, you know, a fun stay at home mom in that way, uh, it didn't really make room for my. Big emotions or, uh, the challenges that I was feeling and, and and facing and how that impacted me over the years is that I didn't know how to be with myself.

I became very codependent on other people because anytime something showed up, that emotion that I couldn't handle, I just wanted to escape. Like my mom taught me to escape. Love you, mom. I know you meant well. Um, and so that led to a lot of anxiety. Like I constantly felt this internal tornado. A black hole that could never be filled.

That's what it felt like in my chest, in my system, and I've talked to a lot of other people that could relate to that feeling, that emptiness, that hollowness that not enough, and always feeling like I need to fill

it with I with other people, or let me just go and merge with other people and what they're up to in their energy and completely self abandoned.

And, uh, so the level of codependency, not just in romantic relationships, but but with friends and the level of discomfort that I constantly felt when I was at home by myself, uh, bled into even the years when I started my self development journey. 'cause I started 20 years ago. And you ladies remember what self development was like 20 years ago.

It's not what it is today, not the modalities that there are today and not the Zoom option today, or fancy retreats. And, uh, it was a lot of mindset and NLP work and seeing therapists, which. Are all valuable, all part of the equation, but left out a very big part, which is the body, the emotions, the energy. And so eight years into it, I'm still struggling and, and, and not realizing at the time, but now I could see it clearly that I was just trimming leaves.

I was just skimming the surface. I wasn't really getting to the root of what of, of the amount of suppressed emotion that I had in my body in my system.

Passionistas: So how did you tap into that?

Anat: Well, first I hit rock bottom. You know, years of thinking you're doing the right thing, just 'cause you're in self development.

Like trimming weeds, not realizing you're trimming. We being like, this is it. This is what it looks like. You just have to keep going and hitting my rock bottom of my five year relationship coming to an abrupt end.

He met someone. I found out I ended things. Two weeks later, I was on a one- way flight from New York City where we lived to California with $2,000 to my name, $40,000 in debt, most of which was self-development stuff.

I invested in, uh, no job lined up. No car because you don't need a car in New York City. Uh, one friend in San Diego that said I could stay with her and a broken heart. A lot of resentment, a lot of anger, no self-love and no plan. You can imagine how my parents felt about that. I remember calling them being like, Hey mom, dad, sit down and I'm just gonna let you know you're gonna lose some sleep over this.

But I have to do this. I get on this plane. I fell in love with San Diego 10 years before that and knew that one day I'd be ready for it. And that was about, the only thing I knew was that I was ready for that. Like,

okay, I don't know anything else, but I know my heart desires to live in sunny San Diego and that was, that was 12 and a half years ago, and I remember.

Landing here and being like, geez, I thought I knew it all. You know, in New York for a little. All of ourselves at moments, you know, you think if you can make it here, you can make it anywhere and live very much in like force and control and all that and, and, and keep going. And, you know, didn't really see how much I had no clue.

I was like, all right, God, clearly I don't know what's best for me. Here I am 32 years old. Just take, take the wheel, take over. And I started to live my life in. Surrender in like every day for the moment of the day. Uh, wasn't ready to hop into a job or anything like that and just starting to slow down and pay attention, and things started to show up and unravel for me from realizing a month later, oh, I don't love myself.

Oh my God, I can't even spend time with myself. Oh, the relationship went the way that it went, because I didn't love myself, speak up for myself, know what I want. Oh, like I have a role in this, okay. To then taking on a hundred days of dating me, I was like, you know what, because I, I found myself already looking for the next guy to latch onto.

And I was like, how about for a hundred days? I just. date myself, and I had no tools, just like jumped right in. Thought I'd be like done in a hundred days and write a book about it. Like I even own the domain name to this day.

But it was just like skimming the surface. And I think what that experience and initial move did for me is it had me stop the insanity of what I was already doing. Like, okay, whatever you're doing to this point, it's bankrupt, it's done. And started to learn and explore other things. I got hired at the Chopra Center for Deepak Chopra to do sales for them three months into living in California.

So I learned about yoga and meditation for the first time. And then, you know, living in southern California, you eventually learn about plant medicine and got into that whole world and that experience. But the first time I felt what it was like to be in my body, to be out of my head, I didn't realize how much I lived my life dissociated from my body and always in my head, and that led me to my mentor, who was a body mind psychologist for 40 years and working with him.

Was the first time I ever experienced what transformation really is, which is not a walk in the park on a beautiful, sunny San Diego day. Meaning it's not just like aha moment sitting in a workshop and you know. Rooting and, and screaming and yelling and feeling great and walking out with new friends and being like, that was amazing.

I'm so transformed. I have all these new possibilities, which by the way was my experience for many of the first eight years of it. It's a walkthrough, a burning forest, and there's dragons slay, meaning there were suppressed emotions that I didn't even know. I had to feel through the grief, the anger. I didn't even know I harbored anger.

I always thought I'm someone that doesn't get angry. No, that's because I was a people pleaser, and so there was so much muckiness, so much discomfort that I had to feel through for the first time. But on the other side of it, I was like, oh. This is the freedom and inner peace I've always been seeking. And four months later I'm like, okay, um, I wanna quit my job and travel by myself, like I actually want to be with my own company.

And that's what I did. Three months later, I bought a one- way ticket to Maui and Hawaii and just. Spend time with myself. And yeah, I met people, but it was different. There was so much inner peace and freedom.

And my mentor had said to me when I was working with him, he goes, you have a real gift with this.

Do you ever wanna do what I do? And I was like, no. So I don't wanna sit in an office and see someone for an hour a day like that just didn't appeal to me. And then four months into being in Maui, I was like. Or Hawaii in general because I hopped some islands. I was like, okay, I don't wanna do it the way he's doing it, but, but, but I want people to experience a level in of inner peace and freedom that I have now, so I'm gonna figure out my own way.

And I called them up and said, I wanna learn a few things from you, and then I'm just gonna like, let it unfold whatever way it's supposed to. And that was, uh, about 10 years ago. Yeah. I was probably having that conversation with him around this time 10 years ago, and then got my first client August 30th, 2015 on my way to Burning Man,

Passionistas: that's, that's an incredible journey. That's really amazing. So I wanna take a step back. Tell us a little bit about working at the

Chopra Center and what that was all about, what you did and what that experience was like.

Anat: Yeah, I mean, I was in sales, so, uh, the Chopra Center had meditation retreats. Um, they had, uh, yoga retreats.

You know, they had different programs that they offered on Ayurveda that people could. Pay thousands of dollars for, and come and experience for anywhere from two days to six days. And I was sitting in a cubicle making 70 call outreach calls a day to people that, you know, had filled out some form or, or on our list, expressed some interest.

So, um, what did I do most of my day? I heard ringing in my ears.

That being said, there was no better environment, corporate environment to work at while going through my own healing and transformation than the Chopra Center where there's a meditation room and we meditate every day before our meeting as a group. And there's conscious communication and your coworkers hug you.

And will have deep conversations with you. So it was so healthy for me and gave me the financial stability so that my, you know, nervous system could relax and I could feel stable to be able to pay my bills and have a home and all that while I went through my dark night of the soul.

Passionistas: You said to your mentor, okay, I do wanna do this. And you said you wanted to do it differently. So what did doing it, doing it differently mean to you? How did you structure that?

Anat: Yeah, you know, I had a vision of groups. I had a vision of retreats. Like, I just knew I didn't just wanna be seeing people walk into my office for an hour at a time.

I really felt, um, something different and. When I started out, it was, it, it, it was virtual. It was a group program. Um, it was like four months. You work every other week was a group call and every other week was a one-on-one call and there were Google Docs. There was no modules back then. I mean, God bless my first round of students, of clients, you know, God bless them.

Um, and uh, yeah, eventually it led from that to, I had a client that just wasn't doing the work on his own. And I said, well, what if we did a retreat? What if we did a private retreat and I knew he was, you know, very busy with his business and that that would be better for him and that he could afford me.

So that was my, my my leap into, okay, I'm just gonna do a six day retreat with this person and take him through basically everything that's in the curriculum right now, in that amount of time. And then follow up with some like integration calls. And then it led to. Another one-on-one client and another one, and then a speaking gig that led to my first group retreat with three men that owned CrossFit gyms like I ended up working with like alpha males, and if I could make them cry.

I knew I was onto something and so quickly it started to shift more to my love of the in-person and retreat, and I stopped doing the virtual 'cause. I still didn't have that figured out. I was not comfortable on camera or like, yeah. So I stopped that after a year. Solely went into leading retreats with three to six people every other month.

I let a retreat for six days. Yeah. And then, uh, I got clarity through that of like, I wanna bring the virtual back because I'm limited as to how many people I could serve if I'm just doing the, the retreat. And so that was my fourth year. And so the combination of doing retreat and the virtual in that way.

Gave me enough practice to start to see what the method is. Mm-hmm. And then fifth year was the, was was the year of COVID.

Passionistas: Of course. So, so you just mentioned the method. Is that the training camp for the sole method? And tell us what that is and how you help people with it.

Anat: So the method really is a combination of the mo, the body and the mind working cohesively together.

Uh, there's, there and, and understanding that there's stages to healing and that if we're, if we skip stages, that is a lot of times why we're going to lack the lasting transformation. There's a lot of great modalities out there and, uh, or I should say there's a lot of great tools out there. There's a lot of great mindset tools.

There's a lot of great somatic practices and tools, but on their own, they leave a lot behind. You know, if you're just doing breath work, for example, and you're having all these great releases, you're, you're moving the energy, you're moving, you're expressing the emotions. It's great. But if on a subconscious level, you're not getting to the root of the beliefs that you have.

That led to you behaving that way. That led to then having those reactions and, and emotions and triggers. Then you're just gonna reinforce it. And so really understanding the depth that there is to go with ourselves and with our clients as a facilitator of not only the awareness of what's there. The survival strategies that run the show.

You know, I'm an inner child expert, and to me, what the inner child is, is really the keeper of all our emotions. Whether you're happy, horny, excited, or you're sad, frustrated, angry, it's your inner child that is expressing that. And when we don't know how to feel safe enough. To be with certain emotion.

Then we lose. We lose control of the driver's seat of our life and our survival strategies. I like calling them our two bodyguards take over. They say, get in the back seat, kid. We're taking over and there are. So many people, probably majority of the world and population are living with their inner child, with their themselves, either in the backseat or the trunk.

And I say the trunk because if you're experiencing depression, you're probably that disconnected from yourself that you don't even hear it. And you can be, quote unquote effective, successful in certain areas of your life for a certain period of time with your survival strategies, with your bodyguards running the show.

But eventually you'll hit that bankrupt moment where it won't work anymore, where it'll impact something so badly that. You'll have to look at yourself hopefully.

And so for me it's a bringing people to the awareness of what their patterns are, what their survival strategies are. And then going from there to, to understanding what it is to actually move energy, to actually be in our body and feel through our emotions. 'cause most of us aren't. We're thinking about our feelings.

We're intellectualizing them. We are verbally talking about them plenty. That was my go-to dumping it on other people thinking that

we're feeling it and really we're just complaining about it. You know, numbing it, stuffing it, running from it, doing anything, but actually knowing how to express it in a way where we build emotional resiliency.

And so that's a big part of it. And. The, and that's stage two really. And then stage three is like getting to the root of understanding that most of what you learned, of who you are today was learned by the time you were seven years old, predominantly from mom and dad. Your role models your caretakers, and that you either copied, rebelled, or survived or needed to create a way to survive, I should say.

That it's not who you are, it's just what you learned. And if you learned it, you could unlearn it. And so the importance of learning to uncover what was the script I inherited so that I can start to become the editor and therefore the creator of my life. As opposed to continuing to live a life of survival, so many of us are unconsciously surviving a script that we inherited, thinking this is the only way that there is to be, this is my beliefs, this is my script.

And so really giving people the opportunity to take their power back and become creators, and then learning how to actually reparent ourselves. That's stage four. How do you reparent. The, the, the, the, the self, which is the mother. Mom is an extension of self. How do I re, you know, reparent myself the way I always needed and wanted for mom?

And how do I reparent the father, which is others, the world and love that's outside of me. How do I reparent that? And then stage five, which is integration, which I see is an area that. A lot of people that have been in self-development a really long time forget is that integration on average is an 18 month journey.

And that's something my mentor taught me. And he was doing this for 40 years. He passed away, but for 40 years. So he had, he was like. I could tell you now, 10 years in on average with big parts of your identity, you're looking at 18 months to fully integrate it. And how many people in self- development struggle because they judge themselves for the moments that they fall back and they think that they need to dig more.

I need to dig more. There's more, there's more to fix, and maybe there isn't. There's just to take more aligned action because you are on the bridge from the old version of yourself. Crossing over to the new version of

yourself and you gotta give yourself those 18 months and you will fall off at times.

So that is my method, is really understanding all the stages and that at each one there's a lot of depth to go into.

Passionistas: And so how does that work? What? What does it look like when you're working with a client? That's obviously a long process if someone really wants to go through that journey. So what's the process like of working with you?

Anat: Uh, on average it's about four months and, you know, weekly working together and modules and, you know, stuff where they get to learn and, and become aware for themselves of the, the, the areas of development that they needed. Development in, they needed mom and dad to model to them. Kind of like the subjects that you needed mom and dad to teach you.

And they either taught you functional or dysfunctional, like boundaries, boundaries with yourself, boundaries with others, expressing your needs and wants, knowing what you need and want self-esteem, connection to yourself and your body. Being able to be authentic and vulnerable with others. So those are each modules that.

My clients get to explore and start to understand what the difference is and how, what is a boundary and why is, why is it your friend, actually? And so along with that, in my sessions, I am slowly guiding them through the stages of healing, going at a pace that their nervous system could handle. Depending on what it is, sometimes you can move through all five in one 90 minute session.

And sometimes when we get to what I call the mothership or the fathership, like the biggest weed in your garden that has 500 roots to it underneath the ground, yeah, that one takes a little bit longer. Uh, but on the other side of it, everybody really gets to learn how to tend to themselves. No matter what arises and therefore how to stay in the driver's seat of your life, you know how to ride the emotions and the ocean of your emotions and how to build resiliency so that you're okay if this emotion shows up again 'cause you're no longer suppressing it, you're expressing it, and now your nervous system understands. That it's not a threat and can work to metabolize it in future times that it arises for you as opposed to needing to put

you into the backseat and take over with fight, flight, freeze, or please behaviors.

So I have so many clients from years ago that will reach out to me out of the blue and say, Anat . Thank you for teaching me what you did. I am going through one of the most challenging times in my life right now, and I feel so equipped because it's not just about healing from our past, our childhood traumas.

It's also about equipping ourselves to learn how to handle the future challenges and opportunities that arise.

Passionistas: So can you tell us a success story or two from some of the people that you've worked with?

Anat: Yeah. Um, okay. So I had a, I had a client years ago that, uh, when she came to me, she was married, married for 10 years. She was about 28 at the time. And, uh, she wanted to do my, my program 'cause she met one of my. Clients at an event and she was just like, this guy's got confidence. And he joy that like, like What are you doing?

I want what you got because I'm not happy. And he, and he just mentioned train a camp for the soul. Just go check him out. And when she came to me on the call, she was like, I don't know that I could afford this. I have to ask my husband. She had no connection to the finances. Didn't know how to manage it.

Everything was her husband who owned two businesses that she worked for him, so she helped him. And I was like, first and foremost, you gotta start getting more involved with the money, like knowing how to do your finances. Long story shorter, she was super, super codependent on him, like couldn't even Pack her own suitcase kind of thing.

Like everything was just relying on him. Uh, very disconnected from her emotions, like rigid as fuck, and working with me. Niagara Falls, like couple weeks in, it's just Niagara Falls, like she cracked open completely and started to really heal and find her voice and find her true self.

Six months later.

Told her husband, she wanted to separate, moved to Austin by herself from, uh, Florida, and just wanted to learn how to like, be an adult and realize how much she was gaslit in that marriage because she gave

away so much of her power anyway, and ended up getting divorced, uh, happily, like choosing that and, you know, built her own wealth.

And success and met a guy, I think it's been now two and a half years later, hell of a king. Great man. Um, and yeah, they got engaged.

They're actually right now traveling the world together. She's working on her book. She's had multiple renditions of her own businesses from being a relationship coach to going through my certification program and, uh, to then, um, helping to run a podcast, uh, production agency to then realizing she just wants to be a writer and help people evoke more of their writing.

And so, I mean, to this day I'm like. Bryn Dayler guys, you can look her up. Bryn Dayler, if you're wondering, and you'll see none of this is made up. This is her story, her journey, and this is what's possible, especially for that type of woman who is so codependent and, uh, doesn't have a voice or know how to do anything herself, to finding her power and then stepping into her own queen and meeting her king.

Passionistas: Yeah. Unbelievable. So now that you have this certification program, um, how does that work? How can people learn more about that and get certified and, and what can they expect after that?

Anat: Yeah, well, I mean, if you wanna learn about it, uh, you can definitely go to my website training camp for the soul.com.

It's the Mastery Program and always welcome to hop on a call with me, give you all the details. Occasionally I do lead some kind of workshop or webinar where you could see me in action. Um, and, uh, yeah, the program, even though I launch it twice a year. People join throughout the year because they get my foundational program whenever they're ready to start.

And that program is really where they get to focus on themselves and learning the method from their own embodiment in their own experience. 'cause nothing's gonna lead you to more success than your own embodiment. I started my business 10 years ago and I did six figures my first year, and I had friends say to me, wow, that happened fast.

And I go, no, no, no. This is 10 years in the making, 10 years of getting myself to a place of my own healing and embodiment. And so that really is the foundational key. Uh, and so, um, that's why I give that opportunity for people like, okay, the program may not start till November, but you sign up now, you get.

Twice the amount of time with, uh, being able to focus on yourself and your own healing. And then, um, I've had, I've had students make their money back while they're still in the program with the things that they launch. From it during it. Soon as they're confident with it. I don't feel like you need the, you know, certificate or the stamp before you can start.

Um, and it's, uh, it's a first class experience. It's, I, I don't take more than 21 students. That's it. I have mentors. Everyone gets a mentor and, and a in a triad group, so it's very, very much first class, hands-on, um, in depth, two hour, 200 hour certification program. You know, combining everything from in-person intensive to virtual, to practicums, to feedback.

Um, I'm very proud of it. Yeah. And you know, on the other side, my students are doing retreats. They're collaborating on retreats, they're doing group programs, they're working people one-on-one. They're going into companies and doing workshops and talks. It's just, it's, it's the type of foundational stuff that then you could teach, uh, to anyone in so many different formats.

Passionistas: That's fantastic. So if someone's sort of on the fence, they're not sure they're feeling stuck, disconnected, lost in life, what's the first step? What should they do?

Anat Peri: Um, as far as their healing?

So getting reconnected to feeling safe, to being in their body. And I have a freebie on my website called Cultivating Safety Meditation, which is gonna start to get you reconnected to that. I totally get that. If someone doesn't know how to surf, going into the water where there's a lot of waves, some of them really big, is really scary.

And if you think of the ocean of your emotions as your body, as everywhere that you know, all your, your emotions are being held, um, yeah. If you don't know how to ride those waves, you sure as hell are not gonna get in there. And even for those that do learn and want to get in the water and you talk to any surfer, they'll tell you they do some things before they get in the water.

They stretch, maybe they do some warmups. In most parts of the world, they put on a wetsuit, otherwise they're not gonna make it

when they're out there. And same thing. So it's so important first and foremost, that we learn again how to feel safe to just be in our body. And that's a combination of certain gentle.

Breath movements, breath practices to vagus nerve practices to learning to scan the body for areas that feel safe to learning, to scan and name the sensations, the physical sensations that we're sensing in our body. All of this is within that cultivating safety meditation lays down the foundation. Of you working with your nervous system as opposed to your nervous system working by itself because it's always working for you.

It's always listening for safety or threat, sense of safety. It will learn it, it will metabolize it, it will keep it as a program to run. Since if it senses a threat, it's gonna put you into this protective bubble. Into the sympathetic state to fight, flight, freeze, or please, and you can reside there forever.

There is many people that are constantly stuck in that heightened state and don't even realize that they are because it's become so normal to them. They don't even know anything else. And so when we learn this, we, uh, how to cultivate safety, we're opening the door. To working with our nervous system to letting our nervous system know what's behind door number two is not a lion.

We can actually look behind there. We're safe, and why it's important to work with our nervous system is that it responds 10 times faster than your mind does, so you can have all the best intentions mentally. And, you know, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm gonna be good. I'm not gonna be defensive. I'm gonna be, uh, patient with my kids.

You know, all the best intentions. I'm gonna visualize it. I'm gonna meditate on it. Great. And then the incident happens. And here you are doing the very thing you said you never wanted to do again. And you wonder why? Because in 0.2 seconds your nervous system. Is responding and in two seconds you become aware of it.

And so the opportunity of working with our nervous system is that it's gonna handle the shit in 0.2 seconds and we can stay present and in alignment with our intention. And so this is where there is to start. That's the basic. And also. The, the safety strategies, the bodyguards only show up when we don't feel safe.

So the more you know how to cultivate safety, even in every moment, you can stay present with what is arising for you.

Passionistas: Wow. So what's the biggest thing, the biggest lesson you've learned about yourself from working with your clients?

Hmm. Biggest lesson learned about myself, um, that I am a great teacher and that I am a, um, a safe space and a powerful healer, and I. I, I still, sometimes I'm very humble and I'm like, wow, okay. I guess I do know what I'm doing here. Um, yeah. And then just how much, how human I am too. How much I see myself. A lot of times in my, in my clients, in how much I continue to learn from them.

There's no better self-development than to, to, uh, have the right tools, but also be guiding others through it. You're constantly getting, uh, that mirror, that reflection from seeing others go through it. Yeah.

Passionistas: So how can people get in touch with you if they wanna work with you?

Anat: Hmm. Training camp for the soul.com. If you wanna learn about my offerings. I actually have some retreats coming up. Um, and I hang out on Instagram for the most part. So if you're on Instagram and you follow me, you'll get a message from me within a week. So I love getting to know the human behind the follower and see what resources or referrals or my own support I could give you. And uh, if you're not on there, you could always drop me an email, Facebook message, LinkedIn. I'm on those as well, just not as active. Yeah.

Passionistas: Awesome. All right, so we have one last two part question,

Which is, what is your dream for yourself and what's your dream for women?

Anat: Hmm. My dream for myself is motherhood.

Yeah. Process. My husband and I are, are, uh, intending on. Practicing right now. Um, to know that like I could have it all, that I could, uh, be a mother to this business, this 10-year-old business and you know, have a great team that supports it and be a great, you know, CEO and businesswoman and at the same time also prioritize having a family and being a mom and a wife.

So that is my personal dream and my dream for women. Um. Is that they remember who they are and that you're a gift and that you have gifts. By the way, I didn't share this. Those bodyguards, they have gifts. There's, you know, to the, the shadow side, there's also a gift side. But to tap into a gift side, you need to be the one in the driver's seat with the bodyguards in the backseat.

And so to, to recognize that whatever part of you feels. Not enough enough on the other side of filling that void. Like I learned to give myself the nurturance I always needed and wanted from my mom, and that filled that tornado black hole. And from there I became, I. This powerful healer that has so much capacity and com compassion to hold others.

And so what I thought was not enough is actually now everything. And so whether it's that or you're scared to be in the world or you feel that, you know, it's you're, you're all alone and that you can't trust others. Or that you're so hard on yourself that you feel like you always need to be perfect, and really you are perfectly imperfect and that is perfect.

That no matter what your, your pattern is that your gift, that if you can learn to feel safe to be with the, the things that you judge the most or afraid of the most, that you're gonna tap into the infinite potential. And the gift. and your, your your highest self and purpose. Yeah. And that this is heaven on earth then, and it's not a destiny.

It, it's, and that it's a journey. It's a journey. I'm human very much still going through it at moments, but it's a delight when you have the right tools.

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